Eugene Bareman is New Zealand’s mixed martial arts mastermind. He has trained two UFC champions, including Israel Adesanya, and was named UFC coach of the year in 2019 and 2020. His gym, City Kickboxing widely regarded as one of the best in the world, but also caters to everyday athletes not only improving them physically but often changing their lives.

We talk about Rog's most memorable and fiery sideline confrontations, why Chris Wood made it when many other talented young Kiwis have failed, why his son Sam never made it as a player, where the relentless joke-telling comes from and why his Hamilton Soccer Shop never quite made it.