E252 | Liam Messam

Show Notes | Liam Messam

00:00 Intro & sponsors

02:15 Welcome — raspy haka voice

02:44 The Hamilton Boys High story

04:19 Abel Tasman hike disaster

07:47 Dave Rennie's hitchhike challenge

09:30 Wayne Smith, Dave Rennie, Sam Cane & Simon Graf

11:54 Why he said yes to the podcast

13:43 His role at the Chiefs

15:16 Monique on kaitiakitanga

19:24 Growing up — the Messam family

22:30 His parents fostered close to 1,000 kids

23:56 Losing his mum to dementia

24:51 The Bristol accent story — how he ended up with the Messams

25:48 Adopted at six weeks — his name was a barcode

26:18 Closed adoption & searching for biological family

29:46 "They gave me a life, a chance at life"

32:12 120kgs at 13

33:49 NZ Sevens camp — coming dead last

34:29 The conversation with Titch that changed everything

39:15 Discipline vs habits

43:37 Jonah Lomu at his 21st

45:10 "I want to be a Chief"

47:43 Ian Foster's cup of tea at his auntie's house

50:29 2011 World Cup heartbreak

51:52 Alone at Auckland Airport

55:44 Chiefs 2012 era — connecting to the why

57:17 The origin of Chiefs Mana

1:01:24 Jeff has no legs

1:04:57 Back-to-back Super Rugby titles

1:07:26 The Chiefs haka

1:08:40 Three finals, no titles

1:10:23 Sonny Bill Williams

1:11:43 Leading with your actions

1:14:02 Graham Henry & Steve Hansen

1:17:08 2015 World Cup — pulling his calf

1:18:55 Water boy yellow card

1:20:14 Gilbert Enoka's Human Library

1:25:34 What he learned from Richie McCaw

1:26:19 Leading the haka — voluntold by Keven Mealamu

1:29:30 Japan & France — going overseas for "culture"

1:31:35 COVID locked down in France for 14 weeks

1:33:45 Coming out of retirement

1:34:54 Walking away — the $1 contract

1:36:52 Fatherhood

1:39:42 Monique — peace, authenticity & a clinical psychologist

1:42:58 Men and communication

1:44:15 30 years of Super Rugby fashion crimes

1:46:07 1082 brain health supplements

1:48:28 Chief of War & Jason Momoa

1:52:03 Boxing from age 12

1:53:39 Fighting Paul Gallen

1:55:10 The Ironman at 108kg

2:00:11 Dream job & advice for young men

2:02:37 Who should be the next All Blacks coach

2:03:17 How he wants to be remembered

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